Jim chats with the inimitable k.d. lang about songwriting, nostalgia and her upcoming tour celebrating the 25th anniversary of her iconic record “Ingénue.”
Listen to part one of Jim’s interview with k.d. lang above!
JB: It’s the Jim Brickman show, and I gotta say, I’m so excited about the artist spotlight today with k.d. lang, one of the most amazing singer-songwriters that I have ever heard and I’m sure you agree. k.d.’s with me today, how are you?
k.d. lang: I’m great, thank you!
JB: So happy to talk with you. I’m such a big fan and so many of my listeners as well. It’s an exciting time, because you have a brand new album that is really a celebration of the original album Ingénue, it’s Ingénue Redux, is that correct?
KDL: Yes, it’s a remastered edition of Ingénue with some additional live performances from MTV unplugged in 1993.
JB: I can’t believe it’s been 25 years, that’s crazy!
KDL: I know, it really is crazy.
JB: So many people know that “Constant Craving” was the Grammy-award winning single you co-wrote… when it coms to songwriting, when you write, is it something that comes to you naturally or do you appointment song-write? Or how does that process work for you?
KDL: I haven’t written for a few years now, but it’s always been slightly arduous. I’m not a prolific writer, but at the same time it’s really all about inspiration and if you’re feeling confident and inspired to write, then it flows out of you, but if you’re feeling forced it’s so…painful, in a way.
JB: I sort of liken it to going to the gym. Like, I hate going, but when it’s over I’m happy.
KDL: That’s the perfect metaphor!
JB: Like in the middle of it I’m thinking, ugh, am I ever gonna think of something? And then it’s over and you think “I’m so glad I did that!”
KDL: That’s exactly what it is!
Listen to part two of Jim’s interview with k.d. lang above!
JB: So you’re going out on tour: what can people expect from the tour? It’s Ingénue Redux, so is it the whole album? What’s the tone of the performance?
KDL: Yes, we are doing Ingénue in its entirety, in sequence, from the top of the show. So for the first ten songs, it’s Ingénue, in sequence. It’s fascinating to go through that as a performer— I can imagine it’s interesting for the listener— because it’s not about show business at that point, it’s about the music. You know, a record is sequenced in a totally different way than a set list is written, it’s not a “best of” record or anything—
JB: Right, right. I mean, that’s amazing, because it is of a certain time, I think like most songwriters you feel this way, that you reflect not only what’s going on in the world but also with you, and so when you go back to that, how does it feel to sing those songs? Does it take you back? Does it remind you of a positive time, a challenging time?
KDL: There’s such a convoluted mix of emotion that comes with it, and actually at the onset of the tour, I really sat down and debated with myself, how I should emotionally present these songs. And I really came up with “emotionally neutral,” and that doesn’t mean without emotion but in a way where I’m not superimposing my own experiences overtop of the listener’s experience of the record. You know, people have 25 years with this record as well, so it’s not just…I can’t, like, take it away from them. I just want to deliver it in a way where people can relive their own experiences.
More on k.d. lang
k.d. lang is that rare performer who, over 25 years as a major-label artist, has matured before our very ears. The Western Canada native launched her career with a blend of country-rock stylings and playfully punk-like attitude, by turns whimsical and subversive; back then, she practically put the alternative in alt-country. But from the very beginning, her bravura singing belied her kitschy cowgirl outfits and spiky hair; anyone lucky enough to attend very first appearance in the United States, on a triple bill of unsigned artists at New York City’s Bottom Line, could hear that she was marked for greatness.
After independently releasing A Truly Western Experience; on a Canadian label in 1984, which generated serious major-label interest in the States, lang joined Sire/Warner Bros. at the behest of Seymour Stein for her 1987 U.S. debut, Angel With A Lariat, produced by one-time Rockpile guitarist Dave Edmunds and cut with her then-band the Reclines. 1988 follow-up Shadowland brought lang—rather daringly—right to the heart of Nashville for a countrypolitan-themed collaboration helmed by legendary producer Owen Bradley, mentor to lang’s idol, Patsy Cline, as well as to Brenda Lee. (In fact, Lee, Loretta Lynn, and Kitty Wells make a guest vocal appearance on the album’s “Honky Tonk Angels’ Medley.”) Though the Nashville establishment may have remained skeptical about lang, Shadowland reached #8 on the Billboard Country album chart.
But lang wasn’t looking to be pigeonholed. Her 1989 Grammy Award-winning Absolute Torch and Twang (Best Female Country Vocal Performance) combined her love of country with increasingly sophisticated, emotive torch singing typified by “Pullin’ Back the Reins.” With the 1992, platinum-selling Ingenue she had fashioned a sound—if not a genre—all her own: an elegant and impassioned adult contemporary approach. That yielded her biggest hit, “Constant Craving,” as well as another Grammy, this time for Best Female Pop Vocal Performance. On subsequent releases, lang continued to both fine-tune and expand the parameters of her songwriting and her repertoire. All You Can Eat (1995) was the most experimental, as challenging as it was fun; the smoking-themed Drag (1997) underscored her gifts as an interpreter, utilizing material by composers ranging from Steve Miller and Air Supply to Jane Siberry and Andre and Dory Previn. Invincible Summer (2000) was perhaps her most sultry, a collection featuring bossa nova inflections and dreamy electronics.
With Hymns of the 49th Parallel, her 2005 Nonesuch Records debut, lang presented her most compelling set of material by other songwriters—all of them, in this case, fellow Canadians—as well as a gorgeous version of her own “Simple.” lang’s interpretation of Leonard Cohen’s oft-covered “Hallelujah” is understatedly stunning; with good reason, it has become, along with her breathtaking cover of Roy Orbison’s “Crying,” an in-concert showstopper. Her most recent studio release, the beautiful and self-assured Watershed, was, as the title suggests, a pivotal moment for lang—her first effort acting as producer along with singer and songwriter. The Times of London declared: “It’s a quirk of the music industry that one of the sexiest, most sensual voices in all of pop music comes not from some raven-tressed siren in a glitter-dress but a middle-aged woman with a utility haircut and a penchant for male tailoring.” lang herself called the album “a culmination of everything I’ve done—there’s a little bit of jazz, a little country, a little of the Ingenue sound, a little Brazilian touch.” Along the way lang garnered two more Grammys, eight Juno Awards in Canada, and Canada’s highest civilian award, The Order of Canada.
lang’s work has been regularly featured in movies—the lang/Orbison duet version of “Crying” was originally recorded for a teen comedy called Hiding Out—but her most powerful work in the visual medium has been on those songs she has created especially for films. She collaborated with composer Bob Telson (Gospel At Colonus) on “Barefoot,” the haunting theme of German filmmaker Percy Adlon’s cult classic drama, Salmonberries, which also happened to star lang as a mysterious young Alaskan orphan. With Siberry, she wrote and performed the incantatory “Calling All Angels,” from the 1991 soundtrack to Wim Wenders’ Until the End of the World, a song that has had a deservedly long life on its own.
Along with Siberry, lang has collaborated, in the studio and on stage, with many other pop and country performers, including Bonnie Raitt and Elton John. But her best-known collaboration has been with veteran crooner Tony Bennett, with whom she recorded the 2002 Wonderful World duets album and continues to tour regularly, often in symphonic settings. Bennett may, in fact, be her biggest fan and he declared to the press what so many fans have come to believe over the last two and a half decades: “She’s the best singer of her generation.”
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